We started making our own glass. We used those little wires , cutting them with the tools. The old ladies have never done it like that, they use a different way, cutting the white boards making shapes and designs. The young ones are doing it different with iron and wire. Its looking good, all the ones we were doing. Some young people were doing the old peoples designs, like the sitting ladies with their sticks, and the spears designs. I never did that , I did my own design . I did little round circles little ones in the middle, then a little one inside a big one.